Lindsey Yong

 

Dr. Sarah Allen

 

Eng 319

 

13 October 2008

 

Voices Carry Over

 


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            Writing with voice, is there such a thing that can allow the expression of the mind without hindering the beliefs of writers? If there is one thing I have gotten out of Crowley’s Ethical Proof, is that “truth can only be seen through the written works of the personality (p. 204). Looking at the works of art from famous writers, there have been times where sometimes inspiration from them works best when writing in an academic discourse community. It may not be followed word for word, but in a way, gives a sense of direction as to how to write towards a specific audience. Imitation follows writers who feel as if there is a right and wrong answer on the content of the paper that is handed before them. I find myself in this position when I am insecure about letting myself go with writing, because I have doubts in my mind about whether or not I was able to stick with the topic given to me. English classes have constantly told me to write objectively no matter what the topic may have been. So I look towards reading and imitating the style of a well-known writer can shift me in a direction where beliefs can be said without losing the voice. Because if in fact the voice was missing in a paper in an academic discourse, this would cause a monotonous voice, ultimately losing meaning.

            There is the different way of defining voice, and that is to bring out the style of the writer, rather than the substance. When I think of style, all I can see reading is nothing but a conversational type of voice. It loses flow, authority and the ability to reflect on the writer’s decision on certain topics. I would struggle trying to use style to bring out the voice of my writing only because the perspective it brings towards others would be a difficult task. When writing in a playful or sarcastic manner, the amount of authority it brings to the writer would weaken, because it only comes from the assertion of the individual rather than seeing the mind at work.

Expressing the mind is key to allow the reader bring meaning to the context, but if a certain style was used for the writer, this would lead to having a set group of people to understand voice, rather than having an entire academic discourse community to interpret the style of the writer. In Crowley’s Ancient Rhetorics, he discusses how Ancient rhetorics would argue as a community, focusing on various issues at the time, and merely focusing on the debate, rather than the facts presented to them. With this method, the beliefs that are followed can be expressed as if it were writing with a sense of substance that is, being able to use the information given and using it to express the mind and creating new ideas. The modern rhetoric follows the idea of using style in writing, where the modern rhetorics use this idea as a shouting match, where the self is at stake from the lack of assertion the individual carries into various arguments. Authority is lost, where the perception of the argument is flawed, and the attempt to express the mind goes to the extreme.

Since writing with voice is found to work best with the substance of writing, imitating a section of Harry Frankfurt’s novel On Truth, would be successful when writing with the style of Frankfurt and writing it from my own perspective without losing the meaning. Frankfurt on page 44 is imitated through his style with my perspective which is, “now, if a person who experiences joy realizes that joy has a particular cause from other parts of his or her life- that is, if the person notices someone or something as the object he owes his joy depends on- Spinoza believes that the person has an undying love for the object. Which is why he concludes love to be: the way a person reacts to the recognizable beings, that bring a sense of joy. They love what we find helps them to live their lives and become themselves. I find it that Spinoza does have a point in this. Many typical moments of love do go through, more or less obviously, the pattern that he defines: people do love what they feel helps them to “find themselves,” or to discover “who they really are,” are to face life in the best way possible without destroying or manipulate their surrounding natures”.

            To understand the beauty of love, Spinoza also states a finding about love that seems to prove his statement correctly: “One who loves necessarily strives to have present and preserve the thing he loves” (Ethics, Part III, proposition I I, scholium). The things a person loves are crucial and precious to him. His life, and both his achievement and his continued enjoyment of individuality, depends on the objects that are loved. Therefore, he naturally takes care to protect and make sure that they are available to him at any moment.

            Looking back on this exercise, I find it best that the way to define my voice in a paper is to take the style of one writer and change it to my own perspective. Corbett’s theory of imitating the works of practiced writers, can allow a growing writer to follow various sentence patterns that were used in the exercise. Reading through my own imitation on Frankfurt’s take on the object of love in life, I can see my voice coming through in the end. If the writing of voice were to be any different, I would have become frustrated trying to make a point, where it would be Frankfurt imitating my own writing through his own perspective. I feel as if imitating what Frankfurt had written about this topic gave me a sense of direction as to how I should interpret the being and the object of love.

            Using this exercise has made me realize that what I am writing on this paper is my voice that has followed me throughout my academic career. The argument I had made in the beginning of the paper, where the substance of the paper was in fact writing with a voice, still holds true after imitating a section of Frankfurt’s writing, only because the content of his writing on this particular subject gave guidelines as to how to go about writing about love. I have found myself using the methods of practiced writers to my own advantage, where I am able to follow Corbett’s method of sentence pattern structure, which has allowed me to read what Frankfurt had written and simply putting it in my own words with the help of imitation. Grammar, pattern, and the flow of the sentences were set in Frankfurt’s way, where I am able to use his style of writing and at the same time keep a strong perspective on the topic.

            Writing a section using Frankfurt’s style and my perspective was at first a difficult task. There were some things that I wanted to write from the way I viewed the section on the object on desire, but it would have led to changing the meaning entirely. For each sentence pattern that was imitated, that became fairly easy because it was given to me in the first place. Even after this exercise, I still find that writing with voice is used through the substance of the paper, rather than having to change the content in order to lay down my own beliefs. From what I have learned from all this is that the perspectives on various writers can change. There are those who would rather change the content of the paper to make a statement on their personality, and those who find it best to put the work of a published writer into his or her own words.

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Melissa Luttrell on paragraph -1:

I like this paragraph however I got tripped up on a few of the sentences. Here are a few: Imitation follows writers who feel as if there is a right and wrong answer on the content of the paper that is handed before them.
So I look towards reading and imitating the style of a well-known writer can shift me in a direction where beliefs can be said without losing the voice.

October 13, 2008 12:18 pm
Melissa Luttrell on paragraph -1:

I really like this first sentence. It really pulls the readers attention in with the use of an action word.

October 13, 2008 12:59 pm
Melissa Luttrell on whole page :

Lindsey –

I really liked your paper. You have a firm grasp on your opinion of what voice is. You might want to make your opinion clearer earlier in your paper.

Thanks very much for sharing your paper with me.

Melissa

October 13, 2008 1:07 pm
Beatriz on paragraph -1:

Lindsay-
So far your paper is really strong, however, during the second paragraph, I was little confused on which side of the argument that you stood on. Also, there are a few sentences that are a bit hard to understand, i.e, “When i think of style, all i can see reading is nothing but a conversational type of voice.” Maybe you can say that when you think of style, reading comes to mind because it is a conversational type of voice. Other than that, good!

October 13, 2008 5:47 pm
Beatriz on paragraph -1:

Lindsay-
this paper was really good, if i understood well, you thought that style should be voice, but you changed your mind and decided it is the content of the paper that is voice? Your argument is overall strong and i like how you cite sources to back up your argument, however, there were a few sentences that tripped me up, (see comment) other than that, good job and thank you for letting me read your paper!
Beatriz

October 13, 2008 5:54 pm
illaria on whole page :

Lindsey,
I liked your paper. I agree with Melissa in that, you really understand what your opinion of voice is. I would suggest that you add examples that support your definition that are not from our readings in class. I think that would be a good way to further emphasize your opinion and clarify it. Great job. Thanks for sharing.
~Hilary

October 14, 2008 3:22 pm
illaria on paragraph -1:

Is this still part of your imitation exercise? If so it might be better if you introduced the exercise and wrote it without any interruptions. If not, how does this relate to your argument on voice?

October 14, 2008 3:27 pm
illaria on paragraph -1:

I really like how you focused on your academic writing and the difficulties you faced while doing the imitation exercise.

October 14, 2008 3:30 pm
zwic7726 on whole page :

Lindsey,
Thank you for sharing you paper witth us. I appreciated how you took the exercises from other readings and applied them to this one. The compare and contrast is good and the elaboration helped you paper. When you moved into the imitation, it was a rough transition. I lost that you were still in the imitation for a second in paragraph 15. I like your essay as a whole!
Thanks,
Gerrek

October 14, 2008 5:04 pm
Jessica Soland on whole page :

Lindsey,
I enjoyed reading your paper. like others before me, I feel you should state your argument in the beginning of the paper. (but still flows well). When you go into your imitation of Frankfurt you need to be a little more clear during your transition and begin a new paragraph. To me your idea of voice seems to run together (both style and content) This might be because of your mention of Crowley in the beginning. Do you agree with him? Or are you favoring style? Maybe try and support your argument just a little more.
thanks for sharing.
Jess

October 14, 2008 9:07 pm
Amanda on whole page :

Lindsey Y.,
I agree that maybe introducing your main idea early in the paper would be a good idea. I really enjoyed this paper and how you even introduced Crowley (I never thought to in my paper). The transitions in the paper could be a little smoother but its small and the only thing i noticed. Thank you for sharing this!
Amanda

October 14, 2008 9:30 pm
stra6907 on whole page :

Lindsey,
Thank you for sharing your paper. I like your difinition of voice, and it is very clear that you know exactly what it is, but I would like to have it be introduced a littler earlier.
Kate

October 14, 2008 10:07 pm
stra6907 on paragraph -1:

this paragraph trips me up a bit, it might be easier to read if you broke down some of the sentences

October 14, 2008 10:10 pm
stra6907 on paragraph -1:

this paragraph trips me up a bit, it might be easier to read if you broke down some of the sentences

October 14, 2008 10:11 pm
Mitchell on whole page :

Lindsey,
Thanks for sharing you paper. I liked your assessment of voice, however toward the ending some of your wording confused me a little. “Even after this exercise, I still find that writing with voice is used through the substance of the paper, rather than having to change the content in order to lay down my own beliefs.” Try revising this sentence in particular. It’s a rather important sentence, but I become confused toward the end of it.
Mitchell

October 14, 2008 10:20 pm
holt8617 on whole page :

Lindsey,
Overall, your paper is very strong. I particularly liked paragraphs 16 and 17 when you mention that imitation helps you to “keep a strong perspective on the topic.” Your personal experience helps to tie the whole paper together and it works really well.
-John

October 14, 2008 10:42 pm
kitto on paragraph 11:

In the sentence “…there have been times where sometimes inspiration” the word time is used twice and sounds a bit odd, perhaps consider using a different word to add more to the sentence.

October 14, 2008 10:42 pm
kitto on whole page :

Lindsey,
Overall nice job on this paper. I will agree with the others that it might work better for you if you introduced your topic earlier on in your paper. I also enjoyed how you related Crowley but didn’t completely understand why you chose to put them where you did. The transitioning was a bit rough for me as well, and some of your sentence structure threw me off a little bit. But, I did enjoy your paper overall and think that it has good potential. Thanks for sharing!
-Jamie

October 14, 2008 10:49 pm
chibihi on whole page :

Lindsey,
I liked your paper, it was really good that you put in more than just Frankfurt but also used the writings of Crowley to help get your point across. I noticed some punctuation errors that you have in the paper that are easy to fix. Thanks for sharing your paper.
Chantelle

October 14, 2008 10:56 pm
Helen on whole page :

Lindsey,
I really enjoyed this. You have a very strong grip on your idea of what voice is, and I really like that. Your paragraphs are very strong. Thank you for sharing!
-Helen

October 14, 2008 11:05 pm
victoria on whole page :

Lindsey,
I enjoyed your paper quite a bit and thought you were able to really able to confirm your beliefs on immitation by using the exercise. I though the last sentence of your 1st paragraph was compelling but maybe could have been more emphasized throughout the essay. Good job and thanks for sharing
-Victoria

October 14, 2008 11:23 pm
Lindsay M on whole page :

Lindsey-

This is a really great paper. You have a very stong handle on voice. I would like to see your side of voice a little bit more. Great paper! Thanks for sharing!

Lindsay M

October 14, 2008 11:58 pm
Jeremy on whole page :

Lindsay,
I really liked your bit about losing authority, I hadn’t thought of it that way before and it was actually enlightening, in addition to pretty interesting.. I also liked how you starting to wind things down in the 3rd paragraph from the bottom, its a unique analysis to say that if the writing of voice were different it would actually be frustrating!
Jeremy

October 15, 2008 1:08 am
nugewriter16 on whole page :

Lindsey,
I thought your paper was very thought out. You defined what your thoughts on voice were, and then stated your opinion about them. It took a little while for the paper to get going with your opinion, so I would recommend stating your opinion a little bit earlier! What a great paper!!!!
Kristin
nuge5901@bears.unco.edu

October 15, 2008 7:40 am
khac2072 on whole page :

Lindsey,
Good paper, and I really thought you did something unique with how concise you made your imitation of the Frankfurt passage. I also like how you kind of came up with your own definition of voice and defended it throughout the exercise.

-Vartan

October 15, 2008 8:45 am
montekins on whole page :

Lindsey,
Before reading your essay, I was struggling to find any argument promoting voice as a function of content. Though it took me a little while to see where you took a stance, your presentation was good. I liked your approach to integrity, instead of a writer just changing personal standards to use his or her own voice. I think you did a nice job transitioning, because I realize it was a difficult task. Thanks for the insight!

Monte

October 15, 2008 11:45 am
bvaldez1988 on whole page :

Lindsay-
This paper is good, I liked how you discuss each topic thoroughly. I can tell you put alot of thought into what your about to say. However, there were a couple of rough patches I hit, for example in the second paragraph, the sentence that says “When I think of style…” maybe reword it and will be good. Otherwise, nicely done and thank you for letting me read your paper!
Beatriz

October 15, 2008 6:43 pm
matejam on whole page :

Lindsey,
Thanks for letting me read your paper. I liked the perspective you took throughout it. I think if you added more transitions and explanations of your opinions it would make the paper smoother and more effective. Also discussing a unifying point throughout each section would help to tie your paper together. But overall I thought it was a very good draft, thank you for letting me read it.
Mateja

October 17, 2008 8:38 am
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